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0x68: Molly De Blanc at CopyleftConf 2019
Summary
Bradley and Karen enjoy and discuss Molly De Blanc's keynote at the first annual CopyleftConf, entitled The Margins of Software Freedom, followed by an exclusive interview with Molly!
This show was released on Friday 31 May 2019; its running time is 00:58:07.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:37)
- Bradley mentioned (without the title) the film, When a Stranger Calls, which is indeed a real movie, not a TV movie, and was from the late 1970s — although Bradley saw it on TV sometime in the 1980s. (02:15)
- Bradley and Karen discuss what ideas Molly's interview got them thinking about.
- Bradley wrote a blog post about Delta's anti-union marketing. (40:50)
- Molly De Blanc is now an employee at the GNOME Foundation and President of the Open Source Initiative (52:53)
Segment 1 (04:11)
A recording of Molly De Blanc's keynote at the first annual (2019) CopyleftConf, entitled entitled The Margins of Software Freedom. Slides for Molly's talk are available on her gitlab account.
Segment 2 (20:11)
Bradley and Karen talk about the keynote and set up the interview.
Segment 3 (23:56)
Extended interview with Molly from on site at CopyleftConf 2019!
Segment 4 (34:06)
May 11, 2019
0x67: Analysis of Two Backports of GPLv3 Termination Provisions to GPLv2
Summary
Bradley and Karen discuss two additional permissions that can be used to “backport” the GPLv3 Termination provisions to GPLv2 — the Kernel Enforcement Statement Additional Permission, and the Red Hat Cooperation Commitment. A blog post on Conservancy's site summarizes the discussion on this show.
This show was released on Saturday 11 May 2019; its running time is 00:41:56.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:35)
- Bradley mentioned irregardless is not actually a word, but it does appear to be slang, which dates back to 1795! (03:23)
- The additional permission system was codified as a formal part of GPLv3, but are generally more informal under GPLv2. (05:24)
- Karen explained what the Principles of Community-Oriented GPL Enforcement. (07:49)
- Karen mentioned that Daleks
terminate!
(08:51)
Segment 1 (13:04)
- Bradley mentioned the inbound=outbound FOSS licensing contributor assent system (18:15)
Segment 2 (26:10)
- Karen and Bradley discuss the term “non-defensive” and what it means.
- Bradley mentioned the Twin Peaks lawsuit as a non-hypothetical case where the RHCC would not apply where GPL enforcement was used by Red Hat itself as a retaliation tactic. (29:23)
- The Kernel Enforcement Statement and the RHCC are available online.
Segment 3 (38:40)
The next episode of will be an interview with Molly De Blanc and recording of her keynote at CopyleftConf 2019
September 2, 2016
0x5C: Basic FLOSS Concepts: Licensing 101
Summary
Bradley and Karen give a basic introduction of copyright licensing of Open Source and Free Software.
This show was released on Friday 2 September 2016; its running time is 01:02:03.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:35)
- Bradley mentioned the phrase “fixed in a tangible medium” which appears in the USA copyright law. (03:10)
- Bradley mentioned the Sherman Antitrust act. (04:05)
- Bradley mentioned the card game Pit (04:15)
- Bradley jokingly quoted Mit Romney's famous gaffe, “Corporations are people, my friend.” (04:44)
- Bradley read Title 17, the USA Copyright act many times. (06:50)
- Bradley mentioned the court case, UNIX System Laboratories, Inc. v. Berkeley Software Design, Inc., which resulted in releasing the parts of BSD that could be Free Software. (12:27)
- Bradley mentioned the FSF's Free Software Definition (13:11)
- Bradley mentioned OSI's Open Source Definition (13:16)
- Apparently, the problem of categorization is called Categorization in Philosophy. (14:30)
- The issue of Open Source not being trademarked is discussed in this essay by Richard Stallman. (15:44)
- The basic categorizations of types of FLOSS licenses are copyleft and non-copyleft.
- Karen suggests reading GPLv2 and GPLv3. (39:31)
- Bradley made a crude drawing of the spectrum of licenses. (40:20)
- Bradley mentioned the The Principles of Community-Oriented GPL Enforcement (55:40)
June 4, 2015
0x56: … & We're Back!
Summary
Bradley and Karen discuss the VMware lawsuit that Software Freedom Conservancy is funding.
This show was released on Thursday 4 June 2015; its running time is 00:33:52.
Show Notes
- Bradley and Karen discuss the lawsuit that Christoph Hellwig filed. (07:37)
- Karen mentioned her LibrePlanet keynote about the VMware lawsuit. (21:30)
- Bradley's talk at LinuxConf Australia 2015, Considering The Future of Copyleft, is available online. (22:04)
- Bradley mentioned the discussion on pump.io about NPR fundraisers. (24:23)
- Bradley mentioned a Debian 8 release party at LinuxFest Northwest, which Microsoft didn't invite him to, since he wasn't willing to give Microsoft his contact info for marketing purposes. (29:16)
- Karen and Bradley promoted the Conservancy supporter program (31:40)
December 30, 2014
0x53: Can Plagiarism Happen Under Copyleft?
Summary
Bradley and Karen discuss what plagiarism is (or isn't) and how it interacts with copyleft licenses.
This show was released on Tuesday 30 December 2014; its running time is 01:16:43.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:00:37)
- Please donate to to send Dan to a conference. There's a progress bar on faif.us now.
- You can also donate to support Software Freedom Conservancy, where Bradley and Karen work, by becoming a supporter.
- Karen mentioned her blog post about the supporter program. (00:08:30)
- Bradley mentioned his blog post about the supporter program as well. (00:09:30)
Segment 1 (00:16:16)
- Bradley and Karen pick up on a topic original discussed in Segment 1 of FaiF 0x02. (00:16:50)
- Bradley discussed the Laurie Stearns' article from the California Law Review, entitled Copy Wrong: Plagiarism, Process, Property, and the Law (00:23:50)
- Bradley mentioned The GNOME Foundation Copyright Assignment Guidelines that he co-authored. (00:28:05)
- Bradley mentioned the Doris Kearns Goodwin Plagiarism controversy, and how it would have been simply redressed if the material she reused had been copylefted. (00:29:26)
- Karen mentioned that Flickr made different policies for CC-BY-SA'd works when selling printed versions. (32:30)
- Bradley mentioned that even software freedom advocates just comply with the copyleft licenses and don't work collaboratively, particularly during hostile forks, using Conservancy's Kallithea project as an example. (00:35:25)
- Bradley reiterated a point he made in FaiF 0x08, where he discussed that Linus Torvalds switched to GPL for Linux because he realized non-commercial restrictions weren't appropriate. (00:37:50)
- Bradley mentioned the hostile fork of GCC called egcs. The H-Online years later wrote a long article that discussed the egcs fork egcs fork. (00:39:46)
- Bradley mentioned that plagiarism is ultimately about attribution, and modern DVCS systems makes attribution easy and renders plagiarism impossible (if DVCS logs are accurate). (00:44:15)
- Bradley mentioned that he continually has learned the lesson that if you let your employer keep copyright, you lose everything you had when you switch employers (if the work isn't copylefted). (00:47:00)
- Bradley discussed the methods of attribution required in GPLv3. (00:50:05)
- Bradley mentioned that copyright notices are the primary method of attribution in copyleft licenses, and even non-copyleft ones too. (00:53:19)
- Karen discussed the attribution requirements in text of CC-BY-SA 4.0. (00:53:49)
- Bradley wants to do a whole FaiF show about how CC-BY-SA may not be a true copyleft since it has no source code requirement (00:54:40)
- Bradley mentioned the “fake name” that film directors use when they wish to disavow a work they aren't happy with. The name is, in fact, Alan Smithee, and indeed the 1984 film Dune lists Smithee as a director even though David Lynch is known publicly to be the director. (00:58:40)
- Bradley mentioned the unfair accusations against Red Hat when they stopped publishing their internal Linux Git repository and instead released a more standard ChangeLog. (01:05:30)
October 9, 2014
0x4F: Linus Torvalds' Comments at DebConf 2014
Summary
Bradley and Karen discuss and criticize comments made by Linus Torvalds at his Q&A during DebConf 2014 in Portland, OR on 29 August 2014.
This show was released on Thursday 9 October 2014; its running time is 00:38:51.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:37)
Bradley and Karen discuss the Q&A with Linus Torvalds at DebConf 2014 in Portland, OR on 29 August 2014. (01:09)
Segment 1 (04:30)
- Ryan Lortie asked about an offensive public statement Linus Torvalds made on 6 July 2012. (05:04)
- Bradley mentioned that Linus Torvalds argued Red Hat was kowtowing to Microsoft using offensive language. (07:57)
- Karen mentioned that Linus
called GNOME an
unholy mess
. (19:05)
August 26, 2014
0x4C: Copyleft vs permissive vs CLAs
Summary
Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Copyleft vs. Permissive vs. Contributor License Agreements: A Veteran’s Perspective by Simo Sorce given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.
This show was released on Tuesday 26 August 2014; its running time is 01:14:47.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:00:38)
Bradley and Karen introduce Simo's talk.
Segment 1 (00:03:02)
The slides from Simo's talk are available, if you want to follow along
Segment 2 (00:59:50)
- Bradley menitoned his blog post about CLA's on Conservancy's website. (01:00:10)
Segment 3 (01:10:22)
Bradley and Karen are still trying to decide what to do about the FOSDEM 2014 talks.
July 1, 2014
0x48: copyleft-next
Summary
Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, copyleft-next: an Introduction by Richard Fontana given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.
This show was released on Tuesday 1 July 2014; its running time is 01:35:07.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:37)
Bradley and Karen introduce the talk.
Segment 1 (05:37)
The slides Fontana's talk on copyleft-next are available.
Segment 2 (01:06:51)
- Bradley mentioned the issue of Noam Chomsky's points on concision (01:13:23).
- Bradley mentioned the anti-GPL keynote by Tom Preseton-Werner of Github at OSCON 2013. (01:14:53)
- Bradley and Karen discussed the Harvey Birdman Rule. (1:27:45)
- Bradey mentioned a comment he posted about CHR-governed policy meetings. (01:29:00)
June 3, 2014
0x46: O'Sullivan's Legally Cementing Licences in Legislation
Summary
Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Legally Cementing Licences in Legislation: Two Law Merchant Models for Free Software Licences by Maureen O’Sullivan given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.
This show was released on Tuesday 3 June 2014; its running time is 01:06:41.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:00:37)
- Bradley mentioned the Planet money t-shirt story (03:04)
- Bradley mentioned he buys Union made sweat pants (04:42)
Segment 1 (00:06:48)
Bradley and Karen introduce the talk.
Segment 2 (00:07:20)
This segment is the talk, Legally Cementing Licences in Legislation: Two Law Merchant Models for Free Software Licences by Maureen O’Sullivan given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013. You can follow along with the slides.
Segment 3 (00:50:55)
- Bradley mentioned a talk he gave on 2005-03-12 at UC Irvine to a workshop of academics meeting about the research area of Computing Communities. Bradley still has some email archives regarding this, but can't find any online link to the workshop (URLs in the emails are all dead) or a recording of his talk. (58:52).
- As Bradley mentioned, ESR self-identifies as a gun nut. (01:00:19)
- Bradley mentioned FaiF 0x3A, which had Gabriel Holloway's talk (01:03:27)
October 17, 2013
0x43: State of the GNUnion
Summary
Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss John Sullivan's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled State of the GNUnion.
This show was released on Thursday 17 October 2013; its running time is 01:19:37.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:00:33)
Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.
Segment 1 (00:01:58)
The slides for John's talk are available, and the source of those slides is available too.
Segment 1 (00:54:31)
- Bradley mentioned RMS' essay, Who Does That Server Really Serve? (01:08:55)
Segment 2 (01:14:53)
Private Internet Access became a new GNOME Advisory Board Member.
August 2, 2013
Episode 0x40: Alison Chaiken on Free Software in Cars
Summary
Note: initially, from 2013-08-01 18:30 through 2013-08-02 08:40 (US/Eastern), the audio file links in the feed did not work. That has been corrected.
Bradley and Karen interview Alison Chaiken about Free Software in cars.
This show was released on Friday 2 August 2013; its running time is 00:51:30.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:00:38)
Bradley and Karen introduce the interview.
Segment 1 (00:01:43)
- Bradley and Karen interview Alison Chaiken about Free Software in the automotive industry.
- Alison mentioned the Genivi Alliance, which is an industry trade association with some interest in “Open Source”.
- Alison presented a session at LibrePlanet about the Right to Repair act in Massachusetts. (00:14:30)
- Alison encouraged listens to get involved with Right to Repair and the Massachusetts Right to Repair.
Segment 2 (00:36:09)
- Karen moderated a panel at the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit 2013 on Automotive issues (37:12)
April 3, 2013
Episode 0x3A: FOSDEM 2013: FOSS Code Goes In And Never Comes Out
Summary
Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Gabriel Holloway's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled FOSS code goes in and never comes out: The Challenge of Sandboxed Proprietary Cloud Services.
This show was released on Wednesday 3 April 2013; its running time is 01:24:33.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:00:33)
Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.
Segment 1 (00:05:48)
The speaker's that you hear are:
- Gabriel Holloway, who gives the talk
- Till Jaeger asks the first question.
- A few other questions are asked, but we're unsure who the speakers are.
- Tom Marble, asks a question later.
Unfortunately, Gabe didn't provide us with slides.
Segment 2 (00:52:25)
- Bradley mentioned the Berne Convention on Copyright. (01:07:19)
- Karen mentioned Cooper Union and how they are in danger of running out of money for their full tuition scholarships. (01:10:00)
- Bradley looked but couldn't find the NPR story about terms of use. (01:19:37)
February 13, 2013
Episode 0x37: Copyright Assignment Again
Summary
Karen and Bradley discuss the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance and other issues related to copyright assignment.
This show was released on Wednesday 13 February 2013; its running time is 01:01:15.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:46)
- Bradley didn't want his words compared to the Ayn Rand's quote from an
interview with Phil Donahue where she said
I'm not going to die, it's just that world will end
. (02:54) - Bradley discussed the reaction to on 0x36 that occurred in this identi.ca thread. (04:20)
- Bradley and Karen discussed the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance. (11:15)
- Bradley pointed out that every other copyleft license allows for
relicensing under newer versions automatically (i.e., they have an
automatic -or-later ), and Karen asked whether Sun's
CDDL does. Bradley checked later, Karen was correct that CDDL's
later version clause (Section 4) is similar to the GPL
policy. (23:00) However, Fontana wrote to us on IRC to say
CDDL's license upgradeability clause is not entirely like GPL's. The GPL states that if no version number is specified, any version can be used. CDDL does not say this; it seems to assume that it will always be clear what version CDDL code will be distributed under, whereas GPL seems to assume otherwise.
- Bradley mentioned the interview he did with The H Online on GPL enforcement. (41:57)
June 19, 2012
0x2C: FOSDEM 2012: Laurent's Open Licences before European Courts
Summary
Karen and Bradley play and discuss Philippe Laurent's FOSDEM 2012 talk, Open Licences before European Courts from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.
This show was released on Tuesday 19 June 2012; its running time is 00:44:07.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:36)
Karen and Bradley mention there is one talk remaining after this one from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.
Segment 1 (03:04)
Philippe's slides are available from faif.us. Note: the slides are licensed differently than the show: they are CC-By-SA-3.0-Unported (rather than -USA).
Segment 2 (32:22)
- Bradley mentioned FSF France's involvement with the AFPA case. (37:30)
May 29, 2012
0x2A: Conservancy's Compliance Project
Summary
Karen and Bradley discuss Software Freedom Conservancy's announcement regarding its coordinated license compliance program.
This show was released on Tuesday 29 May 2012; its running time is 00:32:53.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:36)
Karen and Bradley discuss Software Freedom Conservancy's announcement regarding its coordinated license compliance program.
May 22, 2012
0x29: Richard Fontana at Linux Collaboration Summit 2012
Summary
Karen and Bradley play and discuss Richard Fontana's Linux Collaboration Summit 2012 talk, The Decline of the GPL, and What To Do About It.
This show was released on Tuesday 22 May 2012; its running time is 01:19:27.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:36)
Karen mentioned a legal summit where Richard and Karen spoke; the same event where the organizers said having Bradley speak would be the same as having the caterers speak.
Segment 1 (04:46)
Fontana's slides for this talk are available on Fontana's website.
Note that this talk is a longer version of Ricahrd Fontana's FOSDEM 2012 talk, The (possible) decline of the GPL, and what to do about it from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.
Segment 2 (57:24)
Bradley and Karen discuss Fontana's talk.
May 8, 2012
0x28: FOSDEM 2012: Loic Dachary
Summary
Karen and Bradley play and discuss Loïc Dachary's FOSDEM 2012 talk, Can for-profit companies enforce copyleft without becoming corrupt like MySQL AB? from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.
This show was released on Tuesday 8 May 2012; its running time is 00:56:01.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:35)
Bradley and Karen discuss FOSDEM again.
Segment 1 (10:10)
Unfortunately, we don't have Loïc's slides.
Segment 2 (32:03)
Bradley and Karen comment on Loïc's talk.
April 25, 2012
0x27: FOSDEM 2012: Randal's Legal Hygiene
Summary
Karen and Bradley play and discuss Allison Randal's FOSDEM 2012 talk, FLOSSing for Good Legal Hygiene: Stories from the Trenches from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.
This show was released on Wednesday 25 April 2012; its running time is 01:04:56.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:35)
Bradley talked about the #faif IRC conversation regarding hot milk recipe and its copyright. (01:54)
Segment 1 (07:10)
Allison's slides are available from faif.us.
Segment 2 (35:00)
- Karen and Bradley discussed the insanely complicated poster that Eclipse developers have to put on their walls to know how to accept patches (37:40)
- RMS's GNU Project essay talks about the Qt problem. (39:16)
- Bradley mentioned Chris Hertel's appearance on Linux Outlaws.(44:25)
- Karen mentioned The Scientific American article entitled Secret Computer Code Threatens Science. (54:00)
- Bradley mentioned Roland McGrath (56:44)
November 29, 2011
Episode 0x1D: Stefano Zacchiroli, Current DPL
Summary
Karen interviews Stefano Zacchiroli, who is the current Debian Project Leader. Karen and Bradley discuss their thoughts on that interview.
This show was released on Tuesday 29 November 2011; its running time is 00:38:51.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:36)
- Karen interviewed Stefano Zacchiroli, who is the current Debian Project Leader. (02:59)
Segment 1 (03:58)
- Stefano was inspired by a professor at his university to get involved with Free Software, because you can study the sources. (04:50)
- DPL reelection is in April each year. (08:40)
- Stefano discovered that some Debian derivatives weren't distributing source packages. He's helped them get into compliance, although Stefano hesitates to call it enforcement. (12:40)
- Stefano mentioned that many Debian contributors begin contributing upstream to Debian after contributing to derivatives of Debian first. (15:20)
- Stefano thinks the adoption of Free Software on the desktop is shrinking, and many users are using proprietary software “cloud” services. (19:00)
- Stefano thinks that GPL is not enough to defend our software freedom, and that AGPL can do it but it came a bit late. (20:20)
- Stefano is concerned about companies like Google that can reimplement an entire software system merely to avoid copyleft. (20:40)
Segment 2 (21:04)
- Bradley mentioned that moving a package to non-free is a powerful tool that Debian has to deal with licensing situations (21:40)
- Bradley noted that the Debian ftpmasters make decisions about licensing, but it has not been historically well documented. It seems that fact is now well documented. (27:30)
September 13, 2011
Episode 0x18: 12 Years of Compliance: A Historical Perspective
Summary
Bradley and Karen play a speech recording of Bradley's presentation at OSCON 2011, entitled 12 Years of FLOSS License Compliance: A Historical Perspective.
This show was released on Tuesday 13 September 2011; its running time is 00:57:19.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:36)
- Bradley mentioned that time travel requires special verb tenses according to the Douglas Adams' book, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe. (01:48)
- Bradley gave a keynote at Ohio Linux Fest 2011 (01:58)
Segment 1 (05:02)
- This segment is a recording of Bradley's OSCON 2011 talk, entitled 12 Years of Copyleft License Compliance: A Historical Perspective. The slides are available on Bradley's website so you can follow along during the talk if you like.
- There is a live denting identi.ca thread from Bradley's talk. (03:50)
- Bradley wrote a blog post about a minor GPL violation in the Emacs codebase. It has since been fixed.
- RMS mentioned the NeXT/Objective C GPL violation in his essay, Copyleft: Pragmatic Idealism.
Segment 2 (52:35)
- Bradley will be speaking at the Google Summer of Code Mentor Summit 2011 and at LinuxCon Europe 2011. (55:05)
July 19, 2011
Episode 0x14: Free as in FOAM
Summary
Karen and Bradley briefly discuss and play Bradley's keynote at the Sixth Annual OpenFOAM Conference.
This show was released on Tuesday 19 July 2011; its running time is 01:04:03.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:38)
- Bradley spoke at the Sixth Annual OpenFOAM workshop. (01:42)
Segment 1 (03:20)
- Follow along with Bradley's slides from his talk at the Sixth Annual OpenFOAM Workshop (03:22)
- The sources for the slides is available.
Segment 2 (53:12)
- Karen and Bradley discussed the talk.
- Bill Gates' arrest in New Mexico (Bradley incorrectly said Nevada) is discussed in Gates' Wikipedia entry. (55:20)
- Bradley mentioned the made-for-TV movie The Pirates of Silicon Valley. (56:26)
May 24, 2011
Episode 0x10: Linux License Violations
Summary
Dan Lynch (filling in for Karen) and Bradley play and discuss Matthew Garrett's talk GPL Violations: What Are We Doing? (aka Linux License Violations) from the Linux Collaboration Summit 2011.
If you want to listen to only the off-topic parts of this oggcast, please download the FaiF 0x10 Off-Topic Remix.
This show was released on Tuesday 24 May 2011; its running time is 01:24:10.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:34)
- FaiF Producer Dan Lynch is filling in for Karen as co-host this week. (00:43)
- Karen got married on the day Dan and Bradley recorded the oggcast. (01:03)
- Dan is also known as the co-host of Linux Outlaws, host of Rat Hole Radio, and occasional co-host of FLOSS Weekly. (02:05)
- Bradley mentioned Dick Van Dyke's admission (06:56)
Segment 1 (08:05)
- This segment is Matthew Garrett's talk GPL Violations: What Are We Doing? (aka Linux License Violations) from the Linux Collaboration Summit 2011.
- Matthew Garrett released the slides from his talk which you can follow along with during the talk.
Segment 2 (51:29)
- Bradley mentioned that Matthew is particularly interested in the GPL violations on Android/Linux devices that he's found. (52:57)
- Bradley mentioned Greg Kroah-Hartman's GPL enforcement against Microsoft, which Bradley also blogged about a few years ago. (55:51)
- Dan asked Bradley about DMCA usage in GPL enforcement. Bradley explained that there is a process called DMCA takedown that Matthew was discussing. (57:30)
- Dan and Bradley discussed the Linux Foundation Open Compliance Program. (1:05:05)
- Bradley mentions that he is completely opposed to criminal penalties for copyright infringement, and mentioned his ACTA commenting blog post. (1:12:13)
- Bradley and Dan discussed the Sony DVD rootkit. (1:15:17)
- Karen's wedding invitation got some press since it was a working record player. (1:16:58)
- Karen and Mike's wedding song is at the end of the oggcast, but you can also download the song from the wedding website. (1:21:08)
May 10, 2011
Episode 0x0F: Why Samba Switched to GPLv3
Summary
This episode is a recording of Jeremy Allison's talk, Why Samba Switched to GPLv3 from the 2011 Linux Collaboration Summit, with some commentary from Bradley and Karen on the talk.
This show was released on Tuesday 10 May 2011; its running time is 01:00:51.
Show Notes
Ironically (or perhaps appropriately), Bradley was at Samba XP with Jeremy the day this show was released. So, there he wasn't able to get show notes together in detail for this show.
However, Jeremy's slides from the talk are available (in PDF), and also ODP format. So, you can follow along with it in the talk.
Also, you may be interested to read Bradley live-dent'd Jeremy's talk, so the discussion there might be useful to read as well.
March 29, 2011
Episode 0x0C: Disturbing Debates
Summary
Bradley and Karen discuss two debates going on in the free and open source software community. One recent and seemingly inflated, and one long and confusing.
This show was released on Tuesday 29 March 2011; its running time is 00:43:18.
Show Notes
Segment 1 (03:12)
- Bradley wrote a blog post about the Bionic issues that were raised. (03:44)
- On the old oggcast, Karen and Bradley discussed the Android/Linux system and Bionic specifically. (04:09)
- Karen mentioned an old oggcast where permissive vs. copyleft licensing was discussed. (06:19)
- Jake Edge wrote an LWN article that discussed Bionic (07:58)
- Bradley mentioned Raymond Nimmer's blog that started the debate (10:52)
- Bradley also mentioned Edward Naughton's blog post and paper on Bionic. (11:38)
- Raymond Nimmer is not David Nimmer, who is known for writings on copyright (18:10)
- There is now an disturbing group on identica, which is more disturbing than a tag about disturbing. (19:15)
- Joe Brockmeier did some research on Edward Naughton's ties to Microsoft. (20:05)
- Karen mentioned a paper on deep legal analysis of header files and on originality requirements in copyright (24:40)
Segment 2 (26:07)
- Karen wanted to clear up some confusion about the discussion last episode about the “Open Source” and “Free Software” terminology.
March 1, 2011
Episode: 0x0A: Windows Mobile Windows Phone 7 Series Application Store
Summary
Bradley and Karen discussed the Windows Phone 7 Application Store terms and conditions which prohibit GPL'd and other copylefted software in the application store.
This show was released on Tuesday 1 March 2011; its running time is 00:38:13.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:35)
- Karen and Bradley discussed the Microsoft Phone Marketplace agreement, which was heavily covered in news and blogs. (02:50)
- Karen quoted directly from the § 1(l) from the Windows Phone Marketplace Application Provider Agreement (03:20)
- Bradley credited Jello Biafra with coining the term “punditocracy”, but it seems to have been first used by Charles Reynell in The Economist in 1989 and popularized by Eric Alterman in his 1992 book, Sound & Fury: The Making of the Punditocracy.
- Bradley mentioned the brouhaha about the order of succession after Regan was shot in 1981. (Bradley incorrectly said 1980 on the show.) (09:47)
- Karen and Bradley previously discussed the Apple Online Store agreement on FaiF Episode 0x03.
- Bradley mentioned that the arm port of Windows 7 isn't even done (21:30)
- According to a Canalys study quoted on Wikipedia's Smartphone entry, RIM is only 14% of the market now, when it was previously much larger. Symbian is still the largest, surprisingly. (25:21)
- K-9 Mail is a fork of the last Free Software version of Google's Android Mail application. (30:21)
- Bradley compared what's happening with Android to the history of X Windows (31:40)
- Bradley joked about the naming length controversy for the Windows Phone 7. (33:00)
- Steve
Ballmer strangely kept saying:
The operating system is called Windows
while talking to market analysis back in July 2010. (36:04)
After the show was recorded, there was an announcement that Microsoft would allow employees to build their own companies writing Windows 7 Series Windows Mobile applications.
February 15, 2011
Episode 0x09: Copyleft, -or-later, and Basics of Compatibility
Summary
Bradley and Karen discuss types of copyleft generally and introduce the basics of license compatibility and -or-later clauses.
This show was released on Tuesday 15 February 2011; its running time is 00:41:57.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:38)
- This show discusses copyleft and basic issues of license compatibility (04:09)
- Karen mentioned an episode of the old Software Freedom Law Show, Episode 0x08, where Bradley and Karen discussed selecting a FLOSS license and what the various options are. (04:45)
- license compatibility 06:28
- Bradley incorrectly said that the original Emacs license didn't
have the word
General
in it. However, the other explanations appear to be correct. There's a useful history page that someone wrote about the history of GPL. It appears the non-general GNU copylefts existed from 1984-1988. (06:57) - Karen noted that the Library GPL was renamed to the Lesser GPL which happened in 1999. (09:30)
- Bradley mentioned that when he and RMS worked on the GNU Classpath Exception, Bradley suggested it be called the Least GPL. (10:38)
- GPL doesn't have a choice of law clause. If another copyleft does, it surely is incompatible with the GPL. (14:17)
- AGPLv3
§ 13 and GPLv3 §
13 explicitly make themselves compatibility with each other, which
Bradley calls
compatibility by fiat
. (15:40) - Karen mentioned that the Mozilla Public License § 13 has a section about multiple licensed code (16:50).
- Bradley mentioned that Mozilla Firefox uses a combinatorial license: (GPL|LGPL|MPL), which is a disjunctive tri-license. (19:00).
- Bradley mentioned that the old Software Freedom Law Show Episode 0x17 discussed compatibility of permissively licensed software and copylefted software. (20:22)
- Apache Software License 2.0 was likely the first FLOSS license to have an explicit patent licensing provision (23:40)
- Bradley and Karen discussed the fact that -only vs. -or-later are options with the GPL, while they are not with other copylefts, such as CC-By-SA. (30:11)
January 18, 2011
Episode 0x07: Revoked?
Summary
Bradley and Karen discuss a few corrections from previous shows, and then discuss misunderstandings about the GPL regarding “revocation” of the GPL.
This show was released on Tuesday 18 January 2011; its running time is 00:44:54.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:34)
- Bradley issued a correction regarding FaiF 0x06. Christopher Allan Webber mentioned that FSF sometimes accepts copyright assignments in cases where the entire code base is not assigned. (02:40)
- Karen issued a correction regarding FaiF 0x04 about women being hired to be at the party, but in fact that was not the case, despite being mentioned in this article.
- Karen's paper on Medical Devices was linked to from a ZD Net UK blog. (05:48)
- Bradley mentioned this Android bug regarding mis-sent SMS, which was widely covered in the press. Apparently the bug has been resolved upstream, somewhat disproving Bradley's point. (08:40)
Segment 1 (12:19)
- Bradley is quoted in an article about revocation of the GPL (12:35).
- The story was originally covered on slashdot. (13:17)
- The WinMTR site now
says:
By popular request, WinMTR will be available under GPL v2
. (19:50) - Karen mentioned the FSF's GPL FAQ. (29:27)
- Bradley mentioned the four rationale documents. There's also one for AGPLv3 draft 2 and LGPLv3 draft 2. (30:13)
January 4, 2011
Episode 0x06: GRUB, Zulu Foxtrot Sierra
Summary
Bradley and Karen discuss the inclusion of ZFS GPLv2-or-later code inclusion into GNU GRUB.
This show was released on Tuesday 4 January 2011; its running time is 00:47:58.
Show Notes
Segment 0 (00:35)
- Bradley and Karen discussed the inclusion of ZFS code now included in GRUB, as the GRUB Project announced and was covered at LWN by Jonathan Corbet.
- It's not mandatory that GNU projects have assignment to the FSF. The GNU Maintainer's guide discuss the requirements when items are assigned to FSF. (14:40)
- FSF requires that the entire codebase be assigned once GNU project maintainers choose to assign copyrights. Conservancy's policy on copyright assignment differs here; Conservancy will accept partial copyright assignment. (16:07)
- Bradley mentioned the COBOL front end to GCC that is not in the main GCC codebase because it is not copyright assigned to FSF. (17:40)
- Bradley and Karen discussed the Squeak relicensing last call. (25:49)
- Bradley posted a comment to Corbet's article. (32:30)
Final (45:45)
- The calendar Bradley was thinking of was the International Fixed Calendar, which Wikipedia confirms, with a sourced link, was used by the Eastman Kodak Company from 1928 to 1989.